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Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:47 pm

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Turns out the book 'The original Wild Ones', contains a quantity of fiction. Not just the Jack Lilly story, which was Bogus. The reference to "Alfred Crocker" is bad enough. ... _Wild_Ones

I posted on Instagram and the "community" got upset.

The business card appears to be a fake approximation to prop up the story. The actual address for the 'All American Cafe' was 1158, which was on the corner of Firestone, Manchester and Hooper. It was listed 1946 to 1949 in the yellow pages. Not listed in 1950.

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Post Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:55 pm

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I always loved the movie The Wild One. But I also always knew that the Hollister California motorcycle "riot" (which was likely the birth of outlaw biker culture) was extremely exaggerated complete with staged photographs and all!

When you say the "community" got upset, I'm sure you mean all the tough SAMCRO biker dudes right lol?!

*Dude rolls down the street on his bank-owned 60k dollar Electra-Douche-Vagina-Glide*

*Makes sure everyone knows how bad his taste in music is by blaring Kid-Rock from the sat-nav Dolby surround sound on said bike*

"Have you ever thought about patching in BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrRRRr?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though. That looks like a good book. I'll have to read it.

Post Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:34 pm

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I cant see the big deal with it all. ... -1977.html

Post Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:42 pm

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The big deal with what?

Post Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:56 am

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The Booze-fighter stories fall flat.

Cameron said he bought a new 1939 Crocker with Hemi-heads. Here he is with a 1938, small tank, dual spring fork, parallel valve engine.
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Cameron with what was supposedly the same bike. His Hemi head Crocker he raced in the late 1940s at speed of 116mph. The sign says it was a 1939 model.
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Here is the engine Elmo Looper built in the 1940s. HD knuckleheads on top of a Crocker engine. Elmo died Nov 1969. Murray sold a Norton with this engine in 1970. John Cameron bought the engine from Chuck Vernon and then built a custom bike, shown in 'Big Bike' magazine 1972. Cameron did not race this engine at 116mph in the 1940s or own it. Pure fiction.
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Post Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:02 am

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Close shot of Cameron's bike. The Engine built by Elmo Looper. Note the size of the stroker plates. This adds to the myth that Crocker customers had a choice of engine capacity. More fiction
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